A interview on techcrunch has brought out a lot of responses from various bloggers. Scoble mentions my site and talks about the need for others to think outside of the bubble, do adwords SEO etc and build things that people will actually use.
The other comments about the article seem to focus around saying that we are in a bubble and companies are going to crash and burn etc etc etc.
I think there is a little bubble of stupid ideas, and many many people can’t seem to understand that you need to build products for the mass market not for a bunch of extreme techies that just jump from one thing to the next.
If you have a lot of traffic you can always monetize it. The days of the first bubble are long gone and there are now hundreds of thousands of sites looking to sell stuff online and buying advertising.
The worst you could possiblely do with an advertising model is make 1 cent a unique visitor per day.
digg.com 800k uniques a day? = $8,000/day from advertising.
If you sell stuff you could of course make well over $1.00 a unique visitor per day.
Quote from the article.
“Paul: What I tell founders is not to sweat the business model too much at first. The most important task at first is to build something people want. If you don’t do that, it won’t matter how clever your business model is.
Of course you have to have a business model eventually. But experience so far suggests that figuring out how to make money from something popular is a lot easier than making something popular. “
In my opinion if the cost of your operations are 2-3 cents a unique visitor chances are plain advertising will bring you to profitability. If your costs are over 10 cents a unique visitor then you will need to sell a product or service this of course assumes a high traffic site with at least 100k uniques per day. In about 2 years from now we will probably see a 30-50% decrease in operational costs as hardware and software costs continue to fall.
September 3, 2006 at 10:02 pm |
The reverse is also true. If you build a site with really great technology but which doesn’t give people a reason to come back over and over again, it is very difficult to build a sustained business.
September 4, 2006 at 8:29 am |
Very good insight Markus, thanks for advertising example
September 4, 2006 at 8:43 am |
digg.com 800k uniques a day? = $8,000/day from advertising.
Is that a true number? And I thought that some of my sites have really bad eCPMs
Anyway the advice about the business model is very wise. An adittion is that you should first worry about making a good stream of traffic to your site, and then about monetizing.
Most of the webmasters I know are using all their time to make their sites more profitable while they have 500 visitors per day. That’s not right
September 4, 2006 at 3:37 pm |
CPM’s are a completely meaningless number because the pageviews per unique users can be 100:1 for something like myspace and 2:1 for something like cnn.com but the revenue per unique user is pretty much the same.
September 4, 2006 at 5:29 pm |
Good insight. If you can get a lot of traffic with reasonable cost, you can make money.
I have compiled a list of web sites and their effective CPMs (monthly revenue vs pageviews) based on public information.
http://lifeisaventure.wordpress.com/2006/08/28/how-much-money-do-you-generate-per-pageview/
September 5, 2006 at 4:24 am |
What surprised me about the Scoble article:
“But Joe Kraus, CEO of Jotspot, let slip that he’s hired a person who is just analyzing how good their keyword advertising is working”…
If a startup the size of JotSpot only recently hired someone to analyze keyword ROI, you have to wonder how many internet companies don’t get the importance of mastering the online ad game. It can make or break a startup.
September 5, 2006 at 2:28 pm |
Another great advice from this interview is this :
We’re pretty open about what we think makes a technology stick. We print it on T-Shirts: “Make something people want.” If you had to reduce the recipe for a successful startup to four words, those would probably be the four.
September 5, 2006 at 6:54 pm |
Very Nice Article – Thanks for sharing your views.
September 8, 2006 at 8:35 am |
Great compiled list of sites Life a Venture, thank you.
September 9, 2006 at 6:44 am |
is it the same with the affiliates marketing? we advertise some company links using our id link. and if people click our id link and purchase good from the company we will get a bonus from it?
September 10, 2006 at 9:22 am |
interesting post, the thing about cost per unique user is that it can be spread over time in some examples such as a search engine, most of the money and work will be invested at the beginning.
September 16, 2006 at 11:41 pm |
What?! The worst you could do is $0.00 per unique visitor? I wish it were $0.01/unique visitor. I’m hovering between $0.00 and $0.02, but usually sub-one cent.
September 16, 2006 at 11:42 pm |
OOops. There shouldn’t have been a question mark after the 2nd sentence.
September 13, 2007 at 8:22 pm |
I except the fact. The insight was good. But whatever the site is, can anyone tell me what will work? Maybe something of the sort of Web 3.0? Possible? Hopefully there are sites like http://www.funzooz.com that brings smile about something.
December 28, 2007 at 4:08 pm |
Good insight……….!
February 29, 2008 at 6:52 pm |
Great stuff markus, it’s always a pleasure getting a tips from the adsense’s king…
June 22, 2008 at 12:56 am |
thats a great article, not sure about earnings of some sites though
Pat
June 22, 2008 at 9:32 pm |
Very well written. Thanks!
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regards
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